Thread: What does it say about this government when the Police expect riots and the tories are to cut 5800 police jobs?

The police would say that, wouldn't they? It deflects from what everybody observed at the time, that the police were a shambles.

Cut their pay, and train them harder. They may begin to resemble a disciplined organisation.

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I have counted a number of both uniformed and plain clothes policemen among my friends, family and acquaintances over the years. The loudest voice of protest about the absurdly high pay levels for young recruits in London came from a serving officer. You cannot pretend that the police service is disciplined in the same way that the other services in this country are, instructions from senior officers are ignored by policemen on the beat, who in turn take their cue from the way that senior officers ignore their own duties to play politics. My grandfathers observation as a policeman was that most of the crime in our town was actually committed by police officers, on several occassions there was good reason to suppose that shop break-ins had been done by them. We now read in the papers that the man on trial for manslaughter during the course of his duties was 'shocked by film of his actions'. He shouldn't have been. He had been the cause of a similar incident previously in his career (though there were no cameras available to document that incident).

And those jobs to be front line Policemen.
@Guru Hank.. I suppose you are another Police bashing tosser who will be one of the first to dial 999 when you are in the shit
Any T/Ds are not from me, I don't do T/Ds.
@Guru Hank... I refer you to the answer I gave earlier as they say.

The morale at the Met because of this and the Ian Tomlinson case must be at rock bottom. Common sense says don't make the cuts now, but I don't think Cameron is in the real world. Unlike him, we don't have armed bodyguards and can see the perfect storm that is looming.

It says we are next to bankruptcy and need to reduce public spending. This is the result of the Labour policies of tax, spend and borrow.

Of course another problem with regard to riots is that over the last 50 or so liberalising years we have created a 'do as you like without consequences' culture. The cost of coping with this unnecessary change is crippling; you could almost believe it is exactly what the left wants!

I don;t know how they have the nerve to call themselves a government.

They couldn't organize a children's birthday party at Mickey Ds!

Right about now i am kissing the back of my hand that I no longer live in the UK!

It could be construed as a poor reflection on the policy of the government in regarding to policing, unless the cut in police jobs results in greater efficiency at less cost to the taxpayer. This remains to be seen. It is better to trust the Tories/Lib Dems on policing than the Labour party which was responsi ble for the financial deficit which has caused the police payment problem in the first place and no doubt they will be screaming about another shambles.

The police hierarchy are very angry at the government over cuts to funding and loss of personnel.
That is why they are inventing riots this summer. Oh what do we do then with so few police?
Same as the last riots, nothing until it was TOO LATE.

What does it say about our society when thousands of - lets not beat about the bush - black youths are waiting to riot and loot and are just waiting for the excuse. They seem to have only one response to any situation.

There's been an earthquake (Haiti) - responded to with rape and pillage.
Apartheid ended in Africa - response is to rape and pillage.
Hurricanes and flooding(New Orleans) - rape and pillage.
A drug dealer is shot - rape and pillage.
They achieve indepentant governance in Siera Leone - Guess the response.

All I know is that the British government really hates the British people, I thought we had it bad in the states but at least our politicians are greedy enough that we can bribe them into doing their jobs! Remember last summer when rioters burned London to the ground and looted half the city? Where were your police then? And lets not forget a few months later when that woman made some racist comments on that subway which ended up on youtube... that woman had 6 cops at her house within 2 hours. What does this say about your governments priorities?

Hi Terence
Back in the early 1980s the manufacturing base in the UK crashed. Thatcher increased Police numbers to deal with the anticipated social unrest. And, believe me, social unrest was there every day.
Now we have the cuts in benefits and housing costs. Cuts in the Army and now cuts in the Police.
I really do see a rise in the BNP as local thugs will probably deal with the perpetrators of social unrest.
All really scary.
Best wishes.